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Did Neil Strauss, Author of the Game, Single Handily Destroy the PUA Community?

March 5th, 2010 by stenny

Men have been trying to figure women out forever. There have been countless books written on the subject over the years, yet none of them seemed to work. That was until Neil Strauss recently published, The Game- Penetrating the Secret Society of the Pick Up Artist. Neil’s book, a best seller, seems to be the first book that men are truly latching onto as the savior of the male race.

The book describes Neil’s journey from AFC (average frustrated chump) to PUA (pick up artist.) Neil, or Style as he refers to himself in the book, joins an underground community of aspiring PUA’s and begins unlearning everything he knows about women. Once he washes out his old belief new teachers, gurus, mad seducing scientists fill his brain with the methods they use.

Mystery, of the Mystery Method, focuses his system on the M3 model. This model includes: building attraction, building comfort, and seduction. Mystery builds attraction through use of DHVs (demonstrations of higher value.) A DHV could be simply a story in which the storyteller displays a certain characteristic he wants his listener to pick up on, or it could be magic trick, a funny joke, or the way he handles the targets friends and the AMOGs (alpha males of the group.)

In Neils book he gives quite a few examples of openers, routines, and closes that he learned during his time studying with Mystery, David DeAngelo, Ross Jeffries, Juggler, and the many other seduction gurus out there.

Some of the common examples of Neil’s seduction arsenal:
The opinion opener
The cat on a string theory
The Best Friend test
The cube
The dual induction massage
The ESP routine
Negging the target
The Kiss close
C vs. U shaped smiles

While all these routines are field tested and work, the question is; How long will they survive now that these routines are becoming mainstream knowledge. How long before women pick up on what the man is doing? How long before they’ve heard the exact same opener twice in one night?

Neil Strauss was recently posed with this question. Here is his response:

“The fact is, the game will always work. It’s just that some of the wording to the scripts may have to change – and that’s only for those who use the scripts for “training.”

For example:

What’s one of the most cliched pickup lines in the world?

The corniest, cheesiest one?

That’s right: It’s “What’s your sign?”

If you walk up to a girl and say, “What’s your sign?” she’ll know you’re delivering a rehearsed pickup line from some bad 70’s TV show.

But guess what? “What’s Your Sign” is almost exactly like the openers and DHVs (demonstrations of higher value) in The Game.

There was a point when “What’s your sign” was not a corny way to start a conversation. It was a non-sexual opener: a means of breaking the ice with strangers without hitting on them. It was a current topic, exciting and interesting. (As Mystery once put it, the best subjects for conversations are relationships and the unknown.) Furthermore, it was a way of demonstrating value. Instead of saying “let’s ball” (or whatever the lingo was at the time), you were showing that you were spiritual and had interesting knowledge to offer.

In the parlance of the seduction community, it was a neutral entertaining opener with DHV spikes built in.

And, sure, we all know it’s outdated and cheesy. But isn’t it extraordinary how a few minutes into seventy percent of all conversations with women, a discussion of astrology ensues? She’ll probably ask you, “What sign are you?” And if you know a lot about astrology, it’s actually a demonstration of higher value.

(Note to logical, empirical, factual men: Don’t say, “I don’t believe in that bullshit.” Cynicism and negativity are two traits to avoid when meeting a woman, even if you think they make you seem “cool.”)

When I was researching the book, I spent hours in Miami with a PUA named Maddash, who gave me a long tutorial on astrology. He taught me what all the signs meant, what the twelve houses were all about, how to identify astrological trends in people’s lives, and how to determine sign compatibility.

Whether or not I believed in astrology was immaterial: I now knew a lot about it. And it made for great conversation, connection, and value when I was meeting people.

So the epiphany I had was: “What’s your sign” STILL WORKS. It will always work.

Everything will always work. If people find out about it, all you have to do is change the way you say it and perhaps when you say it.

For example, if saying, “Hey guys, I need a quick opinion on something” telegraphs that you’re delivering a pickup line because the women read about it in a magazine, no worries. Just change it to: “I need some quick help settling a debate.” If opinion openers don’t work anymore, save the question for later in the conversation. I already have three other types of openers I’ve come up with that I’m waiting for the right time to release. And if I can come up with alternatives, I’ve got a feeling YOU can too.

In the bigger picture, the thing that’s important to remember is: There is no such thing as a pickup line. The language and wording don’t matter. What’s important is the intent behind them. The Jealous Girlfriend opener works not because it’s the Jealous Girlfriend opener, but because it’s a way to start an animated conversation with a group of people without hitting on anyone. So as long as you can always do that, you’ve got nothing to worry about.

Knowledge will not change the fundamentals of how women and men are attracted to each other. To make a bad comparison: Guys who like big breasts tend to be into women with fake breasts; it doesn’t even matter to them that they’re NOT REAL. They still flip the same attraction switches that natural ones do.”

So Neil obviously thinks that it is the responsibility of the PUA to continue to evolve. I could not agree more. I am quite stunned when I am at a bar and I hear a guy reciting a line word for word that he learned in a book. It is one thing to learn principles and build upon them with your own personality and experience and its another thing to be a social robot.

Websites like TSB Magazine are getting tens of thousands of hits every day. I can only hope that the men surfing these sites are looking for education into the deeper understanding of attraction and seduction, and are not looking for word for word lines to say to women at a bar.

Bobby Rio is the author of TSB Magazine a site about dating, relationships, sex, travel, nightlife, and self improvement.

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Mystery PUA Never Fails to Get Girls

February 26th, 2010 by stenny

Mystery PUA is a popular figure in the seduction community. Erik von Markovik known as Mystery has been credited as the “World’s greatest pick up artist”. While this is obviously something that could not be quantified, anyone with that title obviously knows something about picking up women. So how did this self-proclaimed late bloomer get to be one of the most successful pick up artists in the world?

Mystery has a lot of time and research put into his method. However, one thing that he has always leaned upon is magic. Yes…magic. Not the kind of magic you’re probably thinking of either. No, he didn’t pick a girl out of the bar and saw her in half in front of everyone. He didn’t pull any rabbits out of a hat or do anything cheesy like that. We’re talking about cool magic tricks that you can do anywhere. Why would Mystery use magic to help pick up women?

First of all you should realize that everyone loves magic. Magic is about creating the illusion of something miraculous. Magic is about the unexpected and creating a sense of wonder in the girls that you’re trying to get with. What else could you do that is going to do all of those things in about 15 seconds. You might be a great conversationalist, but there’s no way you could create the same kind of intrigue that a short magic trick could by talking.

Mystery PUA has performed magic tricks for a long time now. He started out with a mentalist routine and he has been doing a number of tricks since then. Mystery PUA realized that this works after a lot of trial-and-error. He got onto the scene kind of late and as a result he just tried a lot of different things to get with girls.

Mystery PUA took note of the things he did and quickly realized that a little bit of magic could go a long way towards getting with a beautiful girl. While magic won’t impress everyone it will do the job on a vast majority of people. If it doesn’t impress a girl, do you really want to be with that girl anyway? You want to find someone that is creative enough and doesn’t take themselves so serious that they can enjoy a magic trick. If you do the trick right and play it like Mystery PUA would, you’ll be hooking up in no time.

While magic is a great tool to have in your arsenal, you should know that it is not a gimmick. It’s not the only thing that it takes to be successful with women. You’re going to need to be confident and you’re going to need some basic social skills. However, these are things that can be taught.

Mystery PUA started out basically from scratch. He learned the magic, he learned how to interact and his life is amazing as a result. He can now walk into any bar he wants and leave with nearly any girl that he desires. Wouldn’t it be nice if you could do the same?
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Tips For Pick-up Artists (PUA) – Beliefs and Frames – Using Beliefs and Frames to Pick Up Women

February 4th, 2010 by stenny

One of my favorite concepts in improving skills with women (whether you call it becoming a better pick-up artist (PUA), learning the art of seduction or just learning the way of the superior man) is the concept of frames and beliefs. I think that frames and beliefs are closely intertwined, so I decided to post about them together.

In this article, I aim to answer a few questions:
What are frames?
How can I use frames and beliefs to my advantage?
How can I make a new empowering belief become a real part of me?

See, it’s not uncommon for people talk about self-fulfilling prophecies. I think everyone would agree that when someone has unhelpful beliefs and expects the worst, they are most likely to get exactly what they expect.

At the same time, I don’t think people typically think about self-fulfilling prophecies in the positive sense. But why not? If we already believe there’s such thing as “believing something and then it comes true”, why aren’t we using this to our advantage??? Think about it! This is the idea of thoughts becoming reality – that’s like a holy grail in self-development and self-improvement.

My perception is that people believe that would be “too good to be true”. That’s what I originally felt, at least.

Or if they do think that self-fulfilling prophecies could benefit people if they’re holding good believes, I think another limiting belief is, “I can’t change what I believe. My beliefs are what they are and if I try to convince my mind otherwise, my mind will see that it’s ‘not real’ and immediately reject it.” This was another thought I had at first.

But enough great teachers and mentors recommended I start taking on beliefs and frames that are strategic, even if it feels completely psychotic and unnatural to hold those beliefs and frames at first.
For example, believing that women see me as the prize that they want to reach for and chase felt really unnatural at first. I felt like it was a total and complete act, but I committed to it fully and just experimented.

My results were much better than the results I had previously been getting. By holding the beliefs and frames and refusing to crack when it felt challenging to hold my frame, I had created a self-fulfilling prophecy: The women saw me as that “prize” and they DID chase me.

Now using beliefs and frames is a central part of what I use to be successful.

I’m going to talk real quick here about how I think about frames and beliefs and how I install these beliefs into my mind so they become “real” and a part of me.

With beliefs, I think of them as strategies. First, I ask myself, “What would be the most empowering reality for me if it were currently true? An example of this would be to believe that women LOVE me.

Now starting out my belief was that certain women in certain circumstances liked me. But to believe that ALL women LOVE me… wow, that would be a stretch… but it would be a great, empowering reality! So I decide that that’s what I’m going to install. Now how do I make it real and natural for me to believe it, so that it becomes a part of me?

I start by setting time aside each day and affirm the belief to myself. I’ll take five minutes and just keep repeating to myself, “Women LOVE me.” Over and over again, just keep repeating it and making it my only thought. Other thoughts come up, but I just continually return to my affirmation / mantra… “Women LOVE me, Women LOVE me, Women LOVE me…”

As I’m doing this, I am imagining myself moving through the world and women are looking at me and smiling, sending me great, loving vibes. They are loving my energy, my appearance, my attitude, my way of being, my way of talking, the things I talk about… And I am feeling it as if I already have this reality – I am imagining that it’s already real.

Then, when I’m out in the world, I interpret EVERYTHING from the frame (or attitude, or perspective, whatever you want to call it) that it is evidence that she loves me. Even if it seems completely psychotic to believe it, I do not waver in my frame that everything she’s doing is evidence that she loves me and that women in general love me.

The results I’ve experienced is that over a period of time, women end up buying into this reality! As I practice holding a frame during interactions with women, the time it takes for them to buy into the reality becomes less and less until it’s almost automatic in most interactions… and when it’s not, it’s automatic for me to hold the frame and it’s effortless.

I’m writing about this because I have found it to be so powerful and so helpful that I want to inspire all of you to start exploring it if you haven’t yet. I also wanted to take the concept of beliefs and frames from being just a concept and make it tangible and visceral, so you can have a feel for how it’s useful, what it’s like to experiment with it and how results come around. Hopefully I achieved that.

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